E-post från Carolyn Sigedt angående Sigfrid Orre, 2013
Från: carolyn sigedt [carolynsigedt@gmail.com]
Skickat: den 10 februari 2013 07:17
Till: Magnus Johansson
Ämne: SIGFRID ORRE
I want to get more information on a man called sigfrid orre. we know him as our great grand
father. he had two children with two different African women, Natalia Dina and George.
my grand mother is Natalia the daughter to Mr. sigfrid orre. when my grand mother was still
young her father wanted to send her to Sweden to have an education, her mother didn't want
her to go as a way if discouraging the father my grand mother was tattooed on the face. this
angered the father. my grand mother lived on the two farms the father owned with her
husband.
they had four children. my grand father died around 1950. it is rumored that my grand mother
married her cousin( sigfrid's nephew). his name was difficult for the natives to pronounce so
they called him sigedt scheonstrom and he was given a nick name buduki meaning gun,
because he liked playing and teasing the natives with his raffle. my grand mother lost all the
documents in the during the war and she moved back to Zambia with the children.
in the 1960 she and the brother went back to zaire to see the father ( sigfrid orre), they didn't
find him. he was gone and they didn't know how to look for him. she died in 1998 the brother
died in the early 80s.
it was my grand mother's wish to find out where her father came from. and complete our
family tree. since she died I have been doing the research your help to this matter will be
highly appreciated.
carolyn
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On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 12:50 AM, Magnus Johansson
<Magnus.Johansson@varldskulturmuseerna.se> wrote:
Dear Carolyn,
Thank you very much for your e-mail. That is a very fascinating story and a lot of interesting
information you give us , especially considering we have collections from Sigfrid Orre and his
brothers at the Museum of Ethnography in Stockholm. I suppose you found information about
Orre in our database on the internet? We did not have much information about Orre until two
years ago when we were contacted by Åke Andersson who knew Sigfrid Orre and who had
gathered some information about him. I have made a rough translation for you what he wrote
to us two years ago. In fact, Åke Andersson and Sigfrid Orre were working on a book about
Orre but the book has never been published:
Sigfrid Orre, big game hunter and adventurer, born in 1890 in Linköping. He had two
brothers, Wollmar and Torsten. In Linköping, he became a student and reserve officer and
continued his studies at the University of Stockholm. He wanted to be a lawyer. At the
outbreak of World War I he interrupt his studies for emergency service in the regiment in
Linköping. By accident he became partner in a Swedish export and import firm in
Johannesburg, South Africa. He bought a farm in Zambia (Northern Rhodesia at the time), but
sold after some time the farm and supported himself instead as a professional big game
hunter. He served as a supplier of fresh meat for various mining and forestry companies'
behalf. He worked at times for the Belgian great company, Union Minière and led projects
with timber cutting and prospecting. During his travels as a big game hunter and a prospector
in Central Africa, he got to know the barotse people who gave him the name "Mwendujora",
which roughly means "chieftain who has traveled far and seen much."
Eventually he settled in the city of Lubumbashi (formerly Élisabethville or Elizabethville) in
the country of the lunda people in Katanga in southern Congo. Here he was given the name
"Mirasa" (colostrum). In the final years of Katanga, his eyesight deteriorated and in 1961 he
was able, with the help of Swedish UN soldiers, to return to Sweden. He lived in retirement in
Mjölby until his death in 1967.
; During this time he contacted Ake E. Andersson for help to
gather his memories and experiences in a book. The book was written but never published".
I will also send copies of this email to some of my collegues who might have some
information for you.
Best regards/Magnus Johansson
Magnus Johansson
Coordinator of Digitization, Collections Management
Museum of Ethnography
National Museums of World Culture
Djurgårdsbrunnsvägen 34
Box 27140, 102 52 STOCKHOLM.
magnus.johansson@varldskulturmuseerna.se
Tel vxl: 08-519 550 00, tel dir: 08-519 550 78, mob: 073-0985144
http://www.smvk.se
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Från: carolyn sigedt [mailto:carolynsigedt@gmail.com]
Skickat: den 16 februari 2013 09:43
Till: Magnus Johansson
Ämne: Re: SIGFRID ORRE
dear nr johansson,
thank you for the E-mail. reading it brought a tear to my eyes. my father who meet his grand
father(sigfrid orre) is so happy. he can remember seeing some of the mask that are in your
collection. he says his grand father loved the makishi( the mask collection) and they used to
dance for him on weekends. he got a name mirasa meaning tall and slim because he was tall
and slim. the place in kongo where he used to live up to date is called kwa mirasa meaning
where mirasa used to live.
your work has really helped me i have been doing a research on Orre and my garnd father for
years now
i dont know much about my grand father, all i know is he died in 1950 when my father was
ten years old some say he was Orre's nephew or relation. he had a difficult name the people
called him bunduki meaning gun beacause he loved moving with a gun. they say he was a
german soilder, he was called scheinstrom. the only thing we have of him is a picture. in this
book did Orre mention anything about his daughter, his daughter's husband and his grand
children?
please any information regarding this matter will be highly appreciated
thank you
carolyn sigedt
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On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 4:25 AM, Magnus Johansson
<Magnus.Johansson@varldskulturmuseerna.se> wrote:
Dear Carolyn,
Thank you very much for your email and information. I hope you don´t mind if we put some of the
information in our database and mentioning your name as the source? About the book, it was
written many years ago by Orre and Åke Andersson but was never published. However Åke
Andersson contacted us two years ago and maybe he could help you with more information. Here is
the contact-information he provided two years ago:
Åke E Andersson
Garngränd 9
260 42 Mölle
Email: akeandersson.moelle@telia.com
Just tell him you got his email from Magnus Johansson at the Museum of Ethnography and hopefully
he will be able to help you.
Best regards/Magnus
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Från: carolyn sigedt [mailto:carolynsigedt@gmail.com]
Skickat: den 19 februari 2013 10:17
Till: Magnus Johansson
Ämne: Re: SIGFRID ORRE
Dear Mr. Johansson,
Thank you for your mail. my family and I are organizing pictures for you of my grand mother,
her brother, her children and her husband, may be they will be useful to you and the
museum. please you can go ahead and put the information in your database and you can
mention me as your source. should you need any more information please don't hesitate to
contact me.
thank you very much for every information that you have given me.
carolyn
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On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 1:19 AM, Magnus Johansson
<Magnus.Johansson@varldskulturmuseerna.se> wrote:
That would be fantastic and very appreciated! If the files are big I would recommend that you use
www.wetransfer.com, very useful to send large files.
Best regards/Magnus
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Från: carolyn sigedt [mailto:carolynsigedt@gmail.com]
Skickat: den 22 februari 2013 21:11
Till: Magnus Johansson
Ämne: Re:
; SIGFRID ORRE
Dear Magnus,
I got in touch with Ake and he gave me the daughter's E-mail address and we have been
communicating. I have found the whole family. even my grand father's family. they are in
Sweden. my grand father's name was sigurd gustaf Hjalmar Schonstrom. am told the family
dates back to 1700.
thank you very much for your assistance
best regards and stay in touch
carolyn
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